If a man tries to breastfeed his newborn baby, he needs mental help https://youtu.be/y2gckuZAVtU

I think this is all slowly changing (thankfully). There is a lot more awareness/acceptance/ compassion/ help out there now for men.

I think everyone needs help and shouldn’t be afraid to get it

Why suddenly do we have all of these problems? Children have mental health problems, men have mental health problems, women have mental health problems. Once upon a time people would have preferred to be a criminal rather than have mental health problems. Is it an excuse instead of drug addict, alcoholic or plain old nasty violent person? A person goes out and damages property or chains themselves to a car then blocks a main artery but they get to court and it's a mental health problem. I'm a bit over mental health problems I'm afraid because it seems to be a get out of gaol free card.

I never see this to my knowlege, never hit anyone unless slighly in self defense. Though thinking of this topic, I would say simply put a lot of it now involves money which only makes matters worse for men, when they are forced to get more and more treatment. this is really just to get more and more bussiness for the lawyers and phyciciatrists

Yes! This is a very sad situation! Men are usually not very good at opening their hearts to outsiders. Drinking cultures tune into this type of self conscious men who can be negatively geared towards society. This is somewhat common mental health issue most wives, mothers, and sisters experience in their own families. How do we help our own fathers, and brothers? An important debate is necessary to address it.

I've just come to accept that whatever I choose to either do or not do,it's me that's wrong. No matter what. and usually 'just because1

there are a number of reasons why men will not seek help.one of them is we dont like to talk about our problems,in a certain industry there are signs up about seeking help,if you do you are marked and these companies will find a way to get rid of you,I have seen it happen many times,you are working with these people,you go out on your week off and that person dosent come back,they always say they resigned but when you phone them they say they were told it would be better if you resign rather than us classing you as a liability,so with that reasoning,why the hell would you talk about your issues

Agree with you Camille men do not seek help for mental heath since they persive this as being week & not manly-my humble opinion as a male who does not have mental healthy issues

Life not good for many why do people have to be so f in mean

if you turn off the idiotbox and stupidfona, you will not be bombarded with this rubbish. Take control of your life and get rid of the USA demonic programming units, and life will be much happier for all

The views on men's mental health are changing, slowly. The view on DV is never right to hit a female. I have lived through this. But I had good friends and they will see you through.

Hence #healthy parenting. Is “basket weaving” more important to learn in school or “healthy mind weaving”?🙈

some of the greatest minds in the world have tried to solve this problem and many men are followers and will copy from other males Tradition in some countries demands that males be dominant whether they wish to or not. I think all males must be their own judge and the majority will do what is right but overall there are so many causes of mental illness in both men and women that perhaps we should turn the clock back and recreate mental institutions where these behaviours can be corrected.

This is a bit of a mixed up discussion topic. Mental health issues and domestic violence are two different things. Mental health issues do not lead to domestic violence. Domestic violence is about power and control, and can be exhibited in many ways, not just physically, and not just by men towards their partners. It does however frequently lead to mental health issues for those who have experienced it or been exposed to it. Getting adequate and timely support for mental health issues, for men, women, and children is not as easy as people seem to think it is. There are long waiting lists to get the appropriate help, and sometimes it can be difficult to even understand, yet explain to another person what the problem is. I agree that boys are a bit confused as to what their roles in society are meant to be at the moment. The rules keep changing, and people keep telling them that they are “bad”, because they were born make. Especially if they are white.

It's so true that men from a young age are told not to cry over anything & not to show their emotions or how they are feeling. It's hard, that when they do grow up & start courting, the men hold back about showing how they feel towards their girlfriend. It is with a bit of prodding, over a period of years, that the man, whether by this time he is still courting or the couple have married, but he will usually open up as to what he is feeling, & if you are lucky, he will open up about his childhood. This is where most of his upbringing begins. A man is allowed to show his feelings & emotions as much as we women are expected to do. It is upbringing to see that men are now talking about how they feel, & if, for any reason that they become depressed 7 all that that entails, that there are so many places now that a man can turn to for help.

Not weak for a man to cry. He is human.

And it's really sad because any normal human being will applaud anyone that seeks and receive mental help.

Beings times have changed with this being and issue I would respect a man who would get help and if it came to a relationship and he was willing to talk about his past and how he would like to got to a group therapy I bet more females would have more respect for men who actually spoke up about this.

I guess I have been lucky as in our family we do talk and have encouraged everyone to share if they are going through a tough time. We all need to be there without judging anyone and listen without being judgemental.

It is important to talk about your issues and boys and men should not hit women and its ok to cry when you are upset the way some of them have been treated is not right and they should be treated the same as all children whether boys or girls they are just kids and when they grow up they feel much better thats just my view of things

This is a real issue in my family. I do not wish to say to much but it is a shame that men do not get or ask for or get the help that they need at times. I learned a lot of things from my sons issues and we both grew up. Have a great day all. Ask for help if you need it.

The cycle needs to change for sure and help needs to be available to everyone not just males who are struggling with mental or violent issues.Men have been taught from an early age not to show their emotions by crying etc and to be tough and staunch,told to just deal with it by their peers when in reality they need some one they can trust to talk about their feelings.My eldest son lost two males friends in the space of a week to suicide and they were only 23 years old.No one had any idea why they took their lives but if they had received the help they needed they would be alive today,same thing happened a few months ago with a friend of mine,her son took his life too because he had mental issues and again did not get the help he needed.Edited 08-May-23 13:41pm

Ask for help when needed not good to turn to addiction to feel better

We all have weaknesses so man up and get help

If you need help, don’t be to ashamed to ask.

There is no shame in seeking help...

I think that the stigma around mental health problems applies to all genders. It is a pity as many would benefit from help but are not game to seek it out. Others just don't care. I don't think the scenario written by camille 1305145 exists in today's world, perhaps because there are many role models now who do cry at the drop of a hat.

My father never hit my mother. Mother used to tell Dad all her children's misdeeds and so we were the ones to be hit. We knew he'd had a terrible time in the war but never would accept mental health assistance. He died at the age of 49 from a bleed on the brain.My sister said "now we can all get on with our LIFE!"

I totally agree. Men can go one of two ways. They can either emulate what they have learned, or they choose to not be like their fathers! I know of a situation where one boy followed the father, and the other chose to never be like his father and became a good worker and an excellent father! I have also been thinking that men are taking a backseat to women, Women are speaking up, and rightly so, however, men are getting lost in the process. I can't see any of them fighting for their rights. For instance, they rarely get custody of the children unless the mother is proven to be horrible! How is that fair? Men pay child support, do women? Is that fair? I'm sure being a man is very hard these days. They can't discipline their children, and neither can the mothers as far as that goes. The one thing that does get men to stand up is their children! They will fight to the death for their kids (most of them). There are those few who are just bad people as there are women who are bad people. I'm talking the majority of the great people in our society which includes men and women! I believe men should be treated equally. They possess no super-human powers as we'd like to think. Some of the ones that I've known were very flawed, and that's fine, so am I and everyone else! I would fight for men's rights because I believe in what is fair. Just the same as I would fight for equality of any race or anyone else who may be different in some way that society chooses to not accept. We all have faults; we all are different. Some may be accepted; some may not. But everyone should be accepted and loved by everyone. We are in this world together, and we need to love ourselves and everyone else. Some people just can't and never will so the fight for equality will continue till the end of time which could be soon!

I don't give a dam if they are not open to getting the help they need they deserve what they end up with.

I really don’t care

"Man up!", "Be a Man", "Men don't Cry", "men are to Blame for everything", "Only Men commit Domestic Violence (DV)", "Men are Useless", "Oh! You are totally Useless", "You can NEVER get anything Right" - the rhetoric is endless and, today, the majority of those charges are directed against Men by Women. Yes, Men do commit the vast majority of Domestic Violence and that is to be condemned 100%. It is always claimed than men commit DV because they see their fathers and other men doing it and they then think it is OK. Wrong! My Father as a young man committed Physical DV against my Mother yet the men in his family, and in particular his own Father were the gentlest of people. On the other hand his Mother was a Woman who did not have a kind, decent, loving cell in her body. She committed endles Emotional DV against both my Father and his Father. Fortunately my Father realised that what he was doing was wrong and he stopped, possibly because at the age of 18 I grabbed a kitchen Knife and told him that if he ever laid a hand on my Mother again I would kill him. My first and last act of DV. Where DV is involved most of that committed by Men is Physical. Where DV is involved most of that committed by Women is Mental/Emotional. Both are Wrong but society today seems to believe that Women are incapable of it. The men are Always in the Wrong, but no-one has the guts to ask why men commit DV. No-one has the guts to admit that Emotional DV is even more damaging than Physical DV. How many men commit DV as a direct result of the Emotional DV dished out to them by Women? DV is not a one-sided phenomenom. Men are Not always the offender Men are Not always in the Wrong Women are Not always the Victim Women are Not always in the Right.

My father never hit my mum eve she was a bitch. But my sister live with a man that hit her. My sister think it was ok being hit. Her mother in law never was never hit by husband. If a man want to hit he will find away. My dad old friend used to saying i hit my wife knowing she was right about things as he was a man he can hit her or do as he want. My dad alway one hit he out. As he will do againand again. My mum say women should be hit by man as did something wrong and divorce is no no. What do you think

I personally hate seeing the rhetoric that real men don't cry, if you are weak. It stops men getting essential help. Thank goodness here in NZ, there are a few organisations & people that focus on men's mental health. Unfortunately, regardless of gender there is a stigma around mental health. Everyone deserves to be healthy, both physically & mentally.

Terrible as it is, you can't win them all. I try to assist who I can but realise they need to ask for help - you're really on your own in this life.

As an individual who suffers from PTSD, Major Depression and being Bi-Polar, I can attest to the difficulty of recognizing that you’re in real trouble let alone to seek help. Fortunately for me, and all those around me, I did get some help. While I can’t pay for counselling, I am taking some pretty strong medications. While not a cure, I am in pretty good shape. Don’t try and tough it out yourself. There is help out there, quite probably closer than you think, that will give you and those around you a new lease on life.

Times have changed and it is irrelevant whether you are male or female, if you need help then get help do not feel ashamed or embarrassed.

It is best to buy a Morgan plus8 and be happy

My brother suffered terrible mental health problems after his children were born even though he loved them dearly, but I believe that the underlying mental health problems that were well masked prior to this point were bought to the surface because of these new challenges. My brother was actually hospitalised for extended periods after his 3rd child was born due to him disclosing that the voices he was hearing were telling him to harm his wife and small children. He ended up having to be put on a VERY strong antipsychotic medication that required him to have monthly blood tests as this particular medication caused an illness called "agranularcytosis", which was why the use of this medication was so strictly controlled. My dad was a harsh and scary man when my younger brother and I were growing up and we would be physically beaten regularly as children. I was a grandmother less than 1 year before my brother became a father because he was terrified of turning out like HIS father, but he was nothing like our father and his wife said to me before he died that he never once, ever, put a hand on one of his 3 beautiful children. Their relationship changed after my brother's schizophrenia became worse because "he wasn't the man she married" his wife told me once, but he did EVERYTHING he could to be the dad his kids needed and still lived on the same property he and his soon to be ex wife bought together, so that he could play a major role in his children's upbringing. There is a thing called "The Men's Shed" which is an Australian organisation that has a meeting place for men struggling with mental health problems and it not only provides a place to have meetings but it teaches men different skills so that even if their health doesn't allow for employment in the paid workforce, men can come to a place free of judgement or shame and while away time during some dark and daunting days! My brother died in a single vehicle crash coming up to 4 years ago and although I said previously that my dad was a harsh man, he dearly loved his son and relied on him which meant they saw each other often. My brother died after leaving my father's home as he was in the early stages of a new relationship and was quite literally speeding to visit this woman, but he never got there. Telling my father that his son was dead was the hardest thing I've EVER done! My brother and I were not very close throughout our adult lives but I loved him and I thought that he was incredibly brave in acknowledging the voices telling him to kill his family and seeking treatment rather than ending up as a statistic in the gruesome category of "men who killed their families"!. Everybody should have access to ALL healthcare including mental health services. As a retired RN I have seen the struggles of families coming to grips with mental illness in their sons particularly, and I can tell you that the Dad's are most heavily impacted, feeling that THEY have done something to cause it. That might be true in some cases but today there is more of an acceptance of the fathers role as more than just a breadwinner. I hope that by talking openly about this topic that men, just like my brother Graeme, won't feel that they are lesser men by admitting they need help! Thanks for reading.

It is not important what sex you are everyone deserves help

Mental health is not talked enough amongst our family and friends, Back in the old days young men were not allowed to shoe emotion which lead into more problems such as thinking it is alright to verbal, attack women and takeaway our rights as a female. With all the support that is out there nobody men and females should feel ashamed in asking for help. Many mental health services are online such as Beyond Blue, Lifeline, and various others. If your brother, uncle, father want to talk to you let them without offering a view then if you think they need professional help then reach out to the right service.

The sins of the fathers, are passed on to the next generation. This is a bad cycle that is hard to break.

I think men should have counseling in order for them to express their feelings about everything about their life.

There is always something behind. There is always a reason. Someone wants to make us forget that there are men and women just to stop making kids. Useless discussion of what will soon disappear.

Men should not feel shame to express there feelings

No matter whether your a female or male if a person needs help they should ask for it.

If you need help get it I would never shame anyone for getting it. If you hear or see anyone shaming someone who needs help call them on it.

It's a shame men and women need to cry from time to time. I came from an abusive childhood and over time as an adult learned that it is like a sickness, so I learned to accept what happened and move ahead and be a better parent.

Society needs to change

1. You don't need to be married to show kids how to treat women right. 2. Women are abusers too, it's harder for a male to admit being abused. 3. Nowadays help is everywhere. 4. I know men that were abused but never abusive.

It would seem that the abuser goes on to abuse, yet this is not always the case. So, what are we to deduce from this?

I totally agree with Nisha 1298864.

Come on men don’t let your boxers get in a bunch

My mental health issues and my views on seeking assistance on mental health issues were directly impacted by being a 'despite minority' in a country (USA) where RACE is an ongoing ISSUE! FYI: I have never HIT a female under ANY circumstances (PERIOD) and that includes when my ex-wife gave me a STD - before I divorce, her!Edited 08-May-23 14:41pm

I believe it is part of generational trauma carried over from the world wars and nuclear family times, eventually we will have a generation of men who will not have to hold that shame around mental health as the demographics change. Hoping this will provide more support to all people including men around this destructive disease.

I think it's just older people who feel like they have to hide their emotions, isn't it? The people I know who are under 45 all seem to be aware of their mental state, emotional state, etc. and know it's okay to cry, it's not okay to hit your spouse (male or female). I think these same men know it's okay to seek help.....once they identify they have a problem. Some may prefer self-destructive paths like addiction to drugs or infidelity, but I believe society is changing for the good when it comes to being self-aware. In my home we talked about everything, I never told my sons not to cry - always kissed their booboos - and they turned into great men, despite seeing me abused in pretty much every way, and suffering sexual abuse themselves. I believe getting us out of that house (not a home) when they were young, getting them counselling and always loving and supporting them, giving them Sunday School and introducing them to Jesus, and making sure they knew NONE of it was their fault is what saved them. We still talk about everything and I think as time goes on, more men will realize it's good and strong and healthy for them to find proper help where and when they can find it.

I have had mental breakdown in my life and took it out on my wife not knowing that it was my dad that at the time of that i was jackel and then mr hide i now feel so sorry i had pushed my wife against the wall about when we had our first child not realizing what i was doing and as our lives kept going i in my head i realized that i should have not done that and about in my 40s i had about three episodes of going biolistic and i had to go to a psychologist to treat my condition but i had no problems seeing him as i knew i needed help after a while i again had an episode but it was my wife last straw as me and my wife are now separated it's been three years now and she ended up with a now boy friend not long ago and as soon as she had this guy i know have noticed that my health (depression) is gone witch is good but i now have to get a divorce as i think i shouldn't get a girl or woman yet till that happens ps my dad use to throw things at my mum and even hit her it has now or then come to me!!!

Get help and don’t care what others think

A complicated issue. I have had people I know commit suicide and they would be the last people you would think that would. No mental issues showed up. Other times, one can blame drugs as they take them down a very dark path. 100 years ago women would be locked up in an asylum when they went through menopause or sometimes for no reason other than the husband wanted them gone. We are getting better in helping people with problems and there is help out there albeit hard to get as you get told they do not have enough resources. Family life can have an impact good and bad but also peer pressure, work stress, money stress, drugs, and so many other reasons. Men do not want to own up to being mentally ill or perhaps they do not recognise it in themselves. Good question but complicated answer.

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SAD BUT TRUE- NEVER FEEL ASHAMED FOR HAVING MENTAL ILLNESS

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